Dr. Mark Bailey’s “virus debate” with Dr. Zachary Ardern, evolutionary biologist

Posted June 14, 2022

Dr. Mark Bailey has, in the public interest, shared a recent email exchange between himself and Dr. Zachary Ardern, an “evolutionary biologist” of the Wellcome Sanger Institute.

Dr. Bailey explained how this “debate” came about:

“I was recently asked by a third party to engage in a “debate” with Dr Zachary Ardern, an evolutionary biologist at the Wellcome Sanger Institute. Ardern had claimed that after watching a podcast where I mentioned “viral” genomics, he was able to refute the points I made and provide evidence of viruses through his specialty of microbial genomics. I think you will find the email exchange amusing, if not interesting. 

The Wellcome Sanger Institute is understood to be a world leader in genomic research, helping to improve human health and understand life on Earth. How exciting!

According to his bio and emails, Dr. Ardern investigates “the evolution and functions of young genes” in “pathogenic viruses“, including “SARS-COV-2”. Impressive!

However as the exchange reveals, Ardern is unable to demonstrate that “viruses” (replication-competent intracellular obligate parasites that transmit between hosts and cause disease via natural modes of exposure) even exist let alone evolve.

Dr. Bailey noted:

He declares that he is the “real” scientist….”

“…and then proceeds to engage in an ad hominem rant…”

“…and other logical fallacies” (some examples and Dr. Mark’s responses are shown below).


You’ll note how he avoids answering all the pivotal questions and keeps ignoring the lack of valid controls in virology’s methodologies.”

He appears oblivious to the validity of the data he analyses as he constantly refers to “viral” sequences and proteins without showing how this was established”

Apparently the scientific method can be ignored by the “real” scientists! In any case, his emails speak for themselves so please feel free to circulate them as you see fit.”

So Zachary claims to be a real scientist with no time for worldwide FOIA responses from hundreds of institutions in over 30 countries admitting that no one has a pure sample of the alleged virus taken from any human (so that “it” could be sequenced, characterized and studied with controlled experiments – aka “science”) or blogs exposing the lack of scientific method or what gets passed off as “science” when it comes to virology.

But Zachary does have time for inane personal attacks on the Baileys, wild assumptions about their income and insinuations about their motivations. And by his 2nd email he has time to complain that he is putting in too much time on this debate for free.

Apparently Zachary expects to be compensated for his time and effort, but it’s wrong if people freely choose to donate to Dr. Sam or Dr. Mark Bailey in gratitude for the enormous amount of free content they provide week in, week out. Hmm.

Later today Dr. Bailey followed up, providing me with several more emails in the exchange:

I have attached the final few emails in the “debate” I had with Zachary Ardern. You will see he still doesn’t appreciate the invalid methodologies being used by the virologists. I sent him the 1990 paper, “Primary structure of the S peplomer gene of bovine coronavirus and surface expression in insect cells” by Parker et al. (https://doi.org/10.1099/0022-1317-71-2-263), as an example of an invalid tissue culture experiment that attributes a spike protein gene to a “coronavirus“.

His response is “It shows if you culture a specific, known, virus , you can find out things about the proteins.” How does Zachary know it’s a “virus”? Because the paper states “the Quebec strain of bovine coronavirus (Dea et al., 1980) was propagated in Madin-Darby bovine kidney (MDBK) cells, obtained from the American Type Cell Culture collection” (the 1980 experiment was performed with Vero and MDBK cell lines with the usual fallacious methodologies and claims you are familiar with regarding “virus isolation”).

Screenshots from this 1990 paper:

And below is the abstract of the 1980 paper “Bovine coronavirus isolation and cultivation in continuous cell lines” by Dea et al. where they claimed to have “isolated” this alleged “bovine coronavirus” (you can access the abstract by clicking on the title here):

So once again we are left with the million-dollar question (or 1.5 million Euro question, to be more accurate):

Where is the replication-competent obligate intra-cellular parasite that transmits between hosts and causes disease via natural modes of exposure?

And, how long will it take for Zachary to catch on now that Dr. Bailey has personally tutored him on the glaring oversights and wild assumptions that are made throughout virology? As Dr. Bailey points out:

He completely fails to see the circular reasoning being employed once again.
Genetic sequences and proteins
are being called “viral” without a step to show how this was established. The experiments are not providing the required evidence for a virus as they do not demonstrate infectious, parasitic particles that result in more of the same particles. And once again it is astounding how he simply will not address the lack of valid controls.”

Here is the full email exchange between Dr. Mark Bailey and Dr. Zachary Ardern:
(email addresses have been redacted, along with the names of the other 2 people – a moderator and an observer – who were involved in the exchange)
https://www.fluoridefreepeel.ca/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/Mark-Bailey-Zachary-Ardern-emails-redacted.pdf

Dr. Sam Bailey discussed the exchange in her latest video,
False Gods, “EXPERTS” and the Death of Science https://rumble.com/v1akavb-false-gods-experts-and-the-death-of-science-with-dr.-sam-bailey.html?mref=6zof&mrefc=6


Download Part 1, and watch out for Part 2 of THE COVID-19 FRAUD & WAR ON HUMANITY by Dr. Mark Bailey and Dr. John Bevan-Smith coming soon (for free!)
https://drsambailey.com/covid-19/the-covid-19-fraud-war-on-humanity/

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DOES SARS-CoV-2 EXIST? Virus Debate Between Dr. Mark Bailey & Dr. Kevin McCairn, May 2022:
https://odysee.com/@TimTruth:b/sars-cov-2-existence-debate-bailey-vs-mccairn:6